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Post by Tyson "TJ" Knight on Jun 11, 2018 4:16:58 GMT -5
"I always wanted to see the Grand Canyon, but this is some fucked up shit." TJ looked through his binoculars down at the floor of the canyon as thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of the animated dead shuffled along either side on the banks of the Colorado River or writhed in the rapids between them. "This is why we can't have nice things," he joked.
Just then, Shifty, the group's grease monkey mechanic, came up, reporting on the findings at the RV park they were foraging. "I can get some of the campers running, but we'll have to get some of the others back at Flagstaff to come down here to drive them out. They'll be happy to have real bunks to sleep in."
TJ nodded at Shifty, and handed him the binoculars to look at the massive horde below. Shifty let out a stream of curse words a mile long at the sight, and laughed with TJ. "Whoever's on the south end of the canyon is gonna be fucked!"
TJ laughed and said, "Yeah, if the deadies ever stop chasing their own echoes."
TJ keyed his radio. "Billy, Tony. Y'all seeing this? Damned gazillion fuckfaces washing through the canyon. Anything good in the campsites? Stay sharp. Someone had a campfire out there last night. Get what you can, tents, cookware, food. Shifty can get some of the RVs running. The group back in Flagstaff is gonna be happy with this run."
Post by Iris, Paxton on Jun 11, 2018 8:22:38 GMT -5
Iris stood waiting at the end of the pier, elbows rested on the clean shaven foundation that also allowed her stand above the water, looking up further into the distance of the sun hitting the water just right that made the ocean seem to shine as the waves gently moved up and down controlled by the gravitational force the moon and sun had on planet earth, it was such a odd thing for her to realize but she did.
Suddenly arms come up from behind her, she flinch's in surprise only to hear a low but smooth voice speak to her, "Hey baby, you ready to go home?" Iris begun to relax when she realized it was her boyfriend Mason but stepped on his foot nonetheless that caused a slightly pained sound to emanate from his lips and slightly turn her head so she could see him in the corner of her vision and looked at him with a slight scowl, "That's for scaring me by just popping up on me in deep thought!" Mason then lowered his body slightly and kissed Iris gently just below her shoulders, "Sorry, i just didn't want to ruin how beautiful you looked in that moment, you made the whole beach look like nothing." Iris scowl faded into a small smile as she started to look at the ocean slightly below her.
"Don't you mean we? Today there was a lot of chick's looking at you. I even felt like i would have to fend one off today!" Mason stood up straight, and put his arms around iris before turning around to face him and pulling her close "Don't be like that, you know your the only one for me" Iris small smile widened into a grin as she looked into his eye's, he then got closer and she didn't seem to mind, in fact she begun to close the distance too, and then suddenly Mason groaned as his face grow grotesque and decayed before biting Iris causing her to scream in horror.
Iris woke up in her white truck with a shock that made her whole body rise up instantly from how she was laying down in the driver's and passenger's seat, the groaning that had woken her up was coming from the front as there was two walker's moving about. Iris face scrounged up into a deep scowl, she was having a nice dream about her life before the world went to shit and a walker ruined it with their obnoxious groaning, She then sat up right scooting to the driver side grabbing her two chef knives before reaching for the door handle and opening, the sound was enough to attract the two walker's that made their way towards her, Iris simply throw one of the knives straight into the closest walker's head letting them drop as she walked up to the first one and placed her left hand on their shoulder and forcibly impaled them causing them to stop moving and then she let it go so it can drop to the ground.
Now feeling better Iris walked back to where her first knife was and took it before getting back into her truck, she throw the two knives onto the passenger's seat and checked the pistol she had that was in the driver's seat door before pulling outthe key in her pocket to start the car to begin her day. Last night she had spotted a campfire which meant there was somebody out there, somebody out there could mean their's supplies, which was something that everyone seemed to need more of these days. She still had, at least four days worth of rations and one full gallon in her truck since she found some on the way to California, but there was no way of knowing how long that would last, not anymore.
Iris then put the key into the ignition and turned it slightly starting the truck, she then begun to drive out towards the location of the mysterious camp fire last night.
Post by Billy "Kid" Buchanan on Jun 11, 2018 23:34:35 GMT -5
Kid walking along looking for supplies Vegemite ahead of him but staying with sight. It been months now since Kid meant Anthony and TJ and thire "tribe" had grown other loners mostly they met along the way. They decided not to stay in one place for long to stay constantly moving and to take what they needed and to do what it took to keep themselves alive. Still didn't sit right with Kid rading camps and taking what they need from others but was the wolrd now it was dog eat dog morals and firness could be what kills you. Kid may not like it but he couldn't have aruge with the logic of this way of living. Felt strange being by himself for so long and now traveling with others but he couldn't help but not trust them not fully dispite it being months of living together now. What no one knew was that he still slept with weapon beside him at night
Vegemite let out two loud barks Kid whistled and the dog was silent. Kid saw it a Coyote near by it was looking around startled from the dog bark. Kid raised his Compound Bow and took aim The animal drop dead. Kid went over to check the dead body when TJ radio call came in
'No camp site yet this side Vegemite and I are still exploring just got a Coyote for dinner tho over'
Post by Anthony "Ripper" Costello on Jun 12, 2018 0:09:53 GMT -5
Anthony stood beside his truck as he watched his guys load up the vehicles with supplies from the campsite, in his hand he held a small notebook in which he would carefully catalogue the supplies they received from the morning scavenging run. "Keep an eye out for chemicals boys, you never know when we might need them." Anthony continued to document the supplies they collected until he heard TJ over the radio. "Yeah I saw them T, needless to say I'm glad we're only seeing the canyon and not in it, as for supplies, we've found a few tools and some camping gear." Upon hearing that Shifty could get some of the RV's running he smiled. "The others in Flagstaff are gonna be thrilled to have real beds for once, I'll have the guys siphon gas from the vehicles that shifty can't get running, and I'd suggest maybe seeing what we can salvage from the clunkers, even if its just scrap metal.
Anthony continued to document the supplies before giving the notebook to one of his guys and picking up his radio "Hey T, Kid, I'm going to go check out where that campfire we saw last night was, if I don't call in within thirty minutes, assume that something went wrong." Anthony then went to his truck, started it, and began driving to the location of the campfire.
Post by Tyson "TJ" Knight on Jun 12, 2018 1:08:56 GMT -5
TJ winced at the idea of eating another coyote. The meat of a coyote was just... nasty. Boiled, fried, sauteed, slathered in hot sauce or mustard or the occasional highly-prized barbecue sauce, coyote meat could not be refined. Maybe it was all the rotting walkers coyotes eat. Of all the animals in the wild, a pack of coyotes would actually track down and kill walkers, driven hunger-mad as they were by the rotting stench. Even a mile above thousands of walkers in the canyon, their collective mass nearly ten miles wide carried the smell and made TJ's eyes water. Which probably attracted coyotes as much as it scared other animals away. Coyotes were just nasty.
Still, they had to stay hardened. TJ had crossed the United States, mostly on foot, and since forming the Marauders with Kid and Tony he made it a point to walk a bit whenever their caravan stopped. He did not want to become soft riding around in vehicles all the time. It was outings like this trip to the Grand Canyon that let TJ stay in shape.
TJ radioed back to the others, "oh boy more coyote jerky. This place is pretty picked clean. Whoever is camping out here is moving around. And it's getting hotter than Satan's dick out here. We may want to wrap things up and get back to Flagstaff." TJ savored the idea of geting back to the mountain and laying near-naked in the snow there, after an afternoon in the scorching desert sun. "Hold on, I'm gonna check something out."
TJ saw a small glint of metal, the sun reflecting off of something on a distant ridge. Retrieving his binoculars from Shifty, TJ focused in on a battered looking gray Ford truck driving slowly over ridges to the east. It was not one of his people. "Heads up. I've got eyes on a moving vehicle, not one of ours, heading towards my location. Gonna check it out."
Post by Iris, Paxton on Jun 12, 2018 4:12:04 GMT -5
Iris was heading towards the campfire site coming from the east side, even through the truck she could hear the sounds of hundreds if not thousand's of zombies groaning endlessly without rest or care, but even with her ears distracted by the songs of the undead her eye's were laser like focus onto the road, looking out for any potential threats coming her way or supplies that would help her out in her quest for survival.
She didn't know what day it was, month or year, after the outbreak those things became meaningless as every human still alive just kept pushing forward each day as they struggled to survive even a minute of their new existence, death which in her past life seemed like a faraway concept that happened to the old or unlucky was now a daily routine you had to avoid at every turn or sure enough you could be the next walker just like those in the valley, a walking corpse devoid of thought or reasoning other then "eat the living".
A slight grumbling would emanate from her stomach, with how she woke up with such a bad mood she completely forgotten to eat, she decided it would be best to eat now then be hungry later and feel weaker then usual. Iris decided to pull to the right side of the road which was about a mile and a half out from the mysterious campfire site, she took a deep sigh as the hunger coursed through her body before removing the key from the ignition and turning her body back to behind her, although the front only held two people between the two two seat's was a big secret compartment where she held all her food supply and a extra half tank of gas she found about thirteen miles back, she did this in the event that someone tried to rob her or try to invade the truck it wouldn't be worth crossing her over it.
Now back to the compartment, she then started to look through her four day selection of food and ultimately decided to pull out a can of honey baked beans, it wasn't much but yet again five course meals were basically non-existent these days and this was enough to at least help her survive two days more, with her food in hand she grabbed her pistol that was a PSS silent model that she had procured from a dead soldier back when it all begun and kept it, she put it under her shirt before grabbing her knife and opening the door. Once out she stretched her body out before walking to the edge and taking in the site of the majestic gran canyon for the first time with the crystal blue skies and the small clouds drifting about loftily, layers of sedimentary rocks piled onto each other to form very small mountains, erosion emanate as there was a large gash in the middle that formed the Colorado River.
She took her knife and jabbed through the thin metal platting that protected the food from within before carving around it and then popping it open, she decided to simply watch the view as it was amazingly beautiful, aside from the thousand's of walker and the persistent sound of the dead coming from the river, she couldn't ask for a better spot for a solo picnic.
Post by Billy "Kid" Buchanan on Jun 12, 2018 19:46:21 GMT -5
Kid was skinning the coyote papering it for the nights meal when Vegemite ran off baking 'V back' Kid called out but he ignored his commanded and ran off Kid followed.
Kid stop behind a rock and saw his dog had found a girl sitting alone eating food must have attracted the dog. Kid watch as V brought stick to the girl and drop it at her feet. 'traitor' Kid muttered to himself 'anthing for some food ' tho Vegemite had been useful alerting Kid to her presence and being a "cute little dog" Kid had found her with her guard down. 'TJ Anthony V found a girl alone East of that camp site going approach now nothing I can't handle over' Kid said in whisper on the radieo walkie talkie to the others
Kid took out hand gun took off the safety and appeared out of his hiding spot aiming at the girl 'Nice day for it' Kid said announcing himself.
Post by Anthony "Ripper" Costello on Jun 12, 2018 20:12:54 GMT -5
"Alright Kid, heard you loud and clear, I'll swing around just so nothing sneaks up on either of you." After sending his message to Billy, Anthony turned his truck to head east of the campsite, Anthony trusted Billy's capabilities to handle his own problems but it never hurts to have backup. Anthony stopped his truck after a while and continued on foot so he wouldn't spook whoever Billy was encountering.
Staying hidden, Anthony approached the clearing keeping behind any hiding places he could find and looked around. Anthony saw the girl and Billy but his focus was on the surroundings, there was no way in hell Anthony would let anyone get the jump on Billy and Anthony was not opposed to meeting new people so long as they weren't a threat to the Marauders so he kept hidden and kept his distance only keeping an eye out for anything that that might sneak up on the two. This was Billy's choice to handle the situation and Anthony planed on letting Billy take care of it himself, but he made sure to Have Billy's back if things went wrong
Post by Tyson "TJ" Knight on Jun 13, 2018 4:25:44 GMT -5
TJ lost sight of the gray Ford truck through his binoculars as it dipped behind a ridge and never emerged atop the next ridge as expected. It either turned north or stopped,
After hearing Kid and Tony's report over the radio, TJ radioed back "I'm inbound, from the west, coming up on the camp we spotted last night. Got a swinger here."
TJ smirked at the sight of the freshly turned rotter, hanging from a tree by a makeshift noose around his neck. The thing waved its arms at TJ, clutching at the air between them. TJ wondered why the suicider didn't just throw himself down the canyon and crowdsurf the horde below to death, but then he wondered if it were an execution rather than a suicide. He took the safety off his combat rifle and rummaged through the camp, stabbing through a tent and bedroll with his bayonet. A quick survey of the scene found only an empty canteen and a machete caked with dried walker gore. As the hanging walker hissed from the tree, TJ noticed a barely bandaged bite wound on its leg. No wonder he cashed out, TJ mused.
"Guys, I lost sight of that gray truck. Didn't belong to our dangling scarecrow here."
(ooc: Iris' truck)
TJ motioned for Shifty to go back to the RV park and wrap up foraging as he picked up the pace to reach Kid and whoever his dog had found.
Post by Iris, Paxton on Jun 13, 2018 9:41:15 GMT -5
Just as Iris was nearing down the halfway marker of the can of bean's while admiring the beautiful yet walker filled view of the grand canyon, she was lost in her own reverie about the possible good or bad things she might find at the mysterious campsite. It was at that moment she saw something of the corner of her eye and was about to impale it with her chef knife, however what was revealed was a small black dog it looked to be some type of cross between a English Toy Terrier or a very small Great Dane.
The small dog has brought her a present, a simple stick that it probably saw and picked up on the way to see her, it wasn't anything special but behind it's eye's she could see it clearly wasn't just being nice and it wanted something in return for it's gift, it was then Iris saw it's eye's quickly dart to it's can of food and then back at her. "Could it be that you possibly want some of my beans?" As she made that remark it's tail started to swing left and right at a steady pace, Iris let out a small sigh, even after all that's happened to her she still had a small weak spot for dogs that she couldn't resist.
She started to spill out the beans slowly on the floor in front of the precious little thing letting it begin eating, she then scratched behind it's ear's lovingly, she would then hear a small clicking sound that was followed by a voice "Nice day for it" Iris let out a heavy sigh as she cured herself under her breath and took a glance at the dog that was eating before looking at the ledge that was right underneath where she was, it was big and close but unless you were near where she was it was almost impossible to see and it was stable sound if she landed back first on it, a better conclusion then dieing to some forager. She then rose both hands up into the air slowly and openly so the man could see every movement she made while getting up onto her feet, "I guess your it's owner, sorry but i just gave the rest of my bean's to your companion here if your looking to beg for some too." She then slowly turned around to face the unknown voice, "Sorry i have nothing left to give, i actually came here to kill myself off, the truck is dead now but i guess you can spare some of it's parts but thats about it. I wish you all the luck of surviving the rest of this hell, Goodbye."
With those words Iris closed her eye's while keeping her hands in the air, she tilted herself back and begun to shift as her body weight carried her towards the tilted way, it wouldn't be until she was almost halfway falling would her eye's shock open as she quickly pulled out the PSS pistol out of her jacket before it fell out of reach, she aimed quickly at the hand holding the gun and pulled the trigger causing the hand to release the gun from the sudden pain before falling on the ledge. Once she landed, she would quickly rise up again and pull out one of her knives and throw it aiming directly at the man's right leg just below the knee where it couldn't cause any serious damage but hurt none the less, if all this succeeded she would quickly re climb the ledge and walk right up to the man with the gun pointed towards his skull.
Post by Billy "Kid" Buchanan on Jun 13, 2018 10:08:22 GMT -5
It had happen before Kid coudl blink. A loud bang and he felt a hot pain in his hand his weapon fell from reach.'Son of a bitch' Kid yelled out holding his now bleeding hand. Vegemite ran to his owners side 'Yeah see what your dinner date just did?' Kid ask the dog angrily in pain. 'Where that psycho bitch go!' Kid yelled out. Kid bent over to retive his weapon when all of a sudden he collapse to ground with another new and sudden pain this time im his knee. Kid made to get up but fell unable to support his own weight falling back to ground hitting his head hard as he did so 'Son of a bitch' he yelled out again looking up to see women with weapon drawn on him 'What the hell?'he yelled at her in pain.
Post by Anthony "Ripper" Costello on Jun 13, 2018 16:45:45 GMT -5
Anthony never felt admiration and disappointment at the same time before. He was severely disappointed in how Billy had the advantage of the situation but simply let it slip through his fingers but Anthony also felt a wave of admiration wash over him as he saw this woman very easily take the bad situation she was in and turned to her favor. However the time for admiration was over, she had a gun on Billy and Anthony wasn't going to let anything else happen to him. He moved so he was behind the woman and charged towards her tackling her to the ground wrapping one arm around her neck and the other around her shooting arm keeping the gun facing away from him and Billy. For once, Anthony was grateful for his experiences in the gladiator pits, they made able to act fast. "Drop the gun and you won't get hurt, I don't want to kill you but I gotta make sure you wont hurt my friend, got it?" Anthony relaxed his grip on the woman's neck to help show he was being honest about not wanting to kill her.
Post by Tyson "TJ" Knight on Jun 13, 2018 17:30:55 GMT -5
At the sound of a gunshot and Kid's howling in pain, TJ made the double quick to run up on the scene to find Tony on the ground holding an attractive Hispanic woman in a half-nelson and armbar combo, keeping her gun hand immobilized while slightly choking her. TJ dropped a heavy boot on her wrist to get her to drop the gun, which he then kicked away.
"Tony, let her up, check on Kid."
TJ pointed his bayonet directly at her heart, and let the blade tip touch her skin. In Spanish, TJ said to the woman, "Cálmese! No te lastimaremos!" Then in English, "Calm down. We're not going to hurt you."
Post by Billy "Kid" Buchanan on Jun 13, 2018 17:39:11 GMT -5
'Why not?'Kid asked still in pain fact of matter was tho he ego was what took the most damage not only did someone get slip on him but he was armed and they weren't and maybe wrost of all it was a girl 'I had this under control ' Kid muttered to the other two trying to save face. Kid retrieved his weapon and pointed it back at the girl. 'Who the hell are you' he asked
Post by Iris, Paxton on Jun 13, 2018 18:30:23 GMT -5
Iris ended up succeeding in subduing the male that had pulled the gun on her, his rage was crystal clear as he kept on saying "What the hell!", Iris curled her left eyebrow before speaking, "I can say the exac-!!!?" Before she could even finish her sentence she was tackled from behind, falling flat on her stomach as a hand took a tight grip around her neck while another hand pulled her arms in a way so she could neither aim or shoot properly either of her assailants.
"Drop the gun and you won't get hurt, I don't want to kill you but I gotta make sure you wont hurt my friend, got it?" Iris didn't let go of the gun, there was no way she would just do that. Sure enough a third member came into the midst, wasting no time as he headed straight for her where he dropped a heavy boot onto her wrist and she clenched her teeth in pain as she was forced to drop the gun and watched it be kicked away.
"Tony, let her up, check on Kid." the third member said, it seemed he had some type of authority among the three as she was let up, of course trust wasn't that easy as he pointed his bayonet directly where her heart was located,as if too make sure she understood the point he lightly pressed the tip of the blade into her skin and she completely stopped moving. HE then begun to speak in Spanish, "Cálmese! No te lastimaremos!" Then in English, "Calm down. We're not going to hurt you."
Iris chuckle's which causes the bayonnet to lightly poke her skin before she speaks to all three men, "Your guy over there rolls up on me while im eating while pointing a gun, then another one attacks me, and now you have a bayonet aimed at my heart. You not hurting me sounds hard to believe." She then looks at the third men looking him directly in the eye and even daring to lean forward causing the bayonnet to press just enought to draw a tiny amount of blood, "¿Te importa dejar esa cosa? No es como si pudiera enfrentar a los tres sin mi arma." (English:You mind putting that thing away? It's not like I can take on all three of you without my gun.)
Post by Tyson "TJ" Knight on Jun 13, 2018 20:13:09 GMT -5
TJ sighed and pulled his rifle away, slinging it over his shoulder. Looking at Kid holding a bullet-damaged gun in a bloodied hand, he taunted "You're gonna hurt yourself more if you shoot that thing. The frame is all bent to hell....Tony, is he alright? Can he cheat at peekaboo?" TJ snickered a little bit at Kid's expense. "You gotta quit pointing guns at people and letting them live, man."
Then to the woman, while still ribbing Kid, he winked and said, "Parece que eres lo suficientemente hábil ... Como te llamas?"
Post by Anthony "Ripper" Costello on Jun 13, 2018 20:27:41 GMT -5
Anthony immediately released Iris as soon as her gun left her hand and ran to check on Billy, he saw the knife in Billy's leg and at first was worried before he saw it wouldn't cause any serious damage. "Looks like Kid will be fine, its just a really nasty scratch." When Anthony heard Billy say that he had the situation under control, he couldn't help but burst out laughing "Yeah, you really had control Kid, I mean, I only tackled her because I didn't want you to have all the glory of having a gun to your head." Anthony said sarcastically between cackles as he walked over to where TJ had kicked Iris's gun and picked it up. "She's right though guys, we're not giving off the most friendly of vibes here." He said as he stashed the gun away from TJ and Billy's sight and looked towards the three.
"First things first, lets put our weapons away guys so we can at least be civil here. Second, Kid needs medical attention, its not a lethal wound but I'd rather have it taken care of now rather than later so how about we head over to my truck where I have a first aid kit waiting and TJ can patch you up Kid. And then we can talk." Anthony turned to Iris and spoke, "Now I understand that trust is a two way street, so for you to trust us at all I have to show you some trust first, so here you go." Anthony said as he handed Iris back her pistol careful to between her and the others so if she shot anyone it'd be him first. "So what do you say we just talk for a bit?" Anthony said extending a hand for a handshake. "My name is Anthony by the way, may know yours?"
Post by Billy "Kid" Buchanan on Jun 13, 2018 21:19:20 GMT -5
'Im fine' Kid muttered as Anthony checked him over
Kid glared at his friends as they joked and laugh at him and look down right annoyed at the sudden language swop more so when everyone lowed thire weapons and started talking cival. 'Oh sure let all just have cuppa tea and nice little chat'Kid muttered under his breath clearly in a bad mood and embarrassed by the events of the day ' 'Can just get to know each other and have good tal...OI!!' Kid yelled. Unknown to him Vegemite had slowly edge his way back o over to the women and was starting to sniff her at Kid sudden call the dog retreated back to his owner side tale between his legs
'Who side you on?' Kid ask bitterly. He continued to mutter under his breath why the other two spoke to the woman they'd catch the odd little word again like 'had it under control' and 'let have little chat'
Post by Tyson "TJ" Knight on Jun 13, 2018 23:05:15 GMT -5
TJ nodded approvingly at Tony giving the woman her gun back, though he knew that wasn't going to sit well with Kid. The high-strung Aussie was lucky, or maybe the woman's shooting was lucky. Regardless, his head and chest were bigger targets than the gun in his hand. This could have gone badly for Kid. Still, the Marauders never took prisoners, so she was free to go if she wished, but TJ rather wanted her to stay. It had been too long since the last time he found himself attracted to a woman, with the added bonus that this one probably actually was a female. He tucked the embarassing memory of that transgendered encounter back in San Simeon back in the mental box marked "don't go there."
There were more pressing matters. The landscape was open enough that they would see any walkers drawn by the woman's gunshot, Likely the sound echoed like the hissing of the thousands of dead ones shambling through the canyon. TJ didn't see any immediate threats.
TJ examined the woman's truck and looked for signs that she was travelling with someone. The dead could not be stealthy in these environs, but the living could be...
Post by Iris, Paxton on Jun 14, 2018 1:45:00 GMT -5
With a sigh the bayonet user removed his weapon from her location before walking over to the one Iris shot making joke's before speaking to Iris again,"Parece que eres lo suficientemente hábil ... Como te llamas?" Before she could answer the one who had tackled her, "She's right though guys, we're not giving off the most friendly of vibes here."
She sat their listening to them talk among themselves, she easily picked up everyone's names by now as the one she had attacked was kid, the one who tackled her was tony, and the one who kicked her gun away initial was TJ. Tony turned to Iris and spoke, "Now I understand that trust is a two way street, so for you to trust us at all I have to show you some trust first, so here you go." After that tony tossed back her pistol, iris caught it in her hand and immediately tucked it away into her flannel shirt as tony continued to speak, "So what do you say we just talk for a bit?" tony said as extending his hand surely for a handshake. "My name is Anthony by the way, may know yours?"
Iris didn't bother to shake his hand, but she did rise up and dust herself off and then moved her hair out of the way of her eye's before speaking, "Iris, Iris Paxton" She then observed TJ, obviously looking around for either walkers or others she may have been with and she felt the need to ease his suspicions, "If your looking for the dead they won't come here, the pistol i shot is a PSS silent model, it make's no sound as bullet's fly. As for the living i been alone for nearly thirty two mile's if anyone even followed me they would be long gone."